Monthly Archives: April 2010

Ready to Call a Vancouver-Pittsburgh Stanley Cup Final

The first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs told us three things: (1) Henrik Sedin IS the most valuable player in the National Hockey League this season, (2) the Pittsburgh Penguins appear ready to defend their Stanley Cup crown and (3) nothing beats a great goaltender.

How ’bout that Jaroslav Halak? He made 53 saves in Game 6 and 41 saves in Game 7 as he led the Montreal Canadiens to the biggest upset of this playoff year. The Habs were down 3-1 in the series when Halak decided to win it himself, stopping 131 of the final 134 shots he faced to give the Canadiens a 4-3 series win over President’s Trophy champion Washington Capitals. So much for Alex Ovechkin in this year’s post-season.

It was the fourth time in eight years, the No. 8-seed had beaten the No. 1-seed in a first-round series, and it means we went 6-2 with our picks in the opening round.

Let’s take a look at the second round:

Western Conference

San Jose Sharks (1) vs. Detroit Red Wings (5)

The Sharks looked good in round one against Colorado and appeared to get rid of the playoff jitters. The aging Wings, who just don’t play very well at home these days, looked great on the road against Phoenix. This will be a great series, but I think it’s the Sharks in a close one.

San Jose Sharks in seven

Chicago Blackhawks (2) vs. Vancouver Canucks (3)

The Canucks finished strong against L.A., scoring 17 goals in the final three games. The Hawks were lucky to get past Nashville. The Canucks gain some revenge from last year.

Vancouver Canucks in six

Eastern Conference

Pittsburgh Penguins (4) versus Montreal Canadiens (8)

In a year of upsets, I don’t see one here. Sidney Crosby is on a mission and the tiny Canadiens will tire, Jaroslav Halak or not.

Pittsburgh Penguins in six

Boston Bruins (6) versus Philadelphia Flyers (7)

Tuukka Rask is a better goaltender than we think and Boston gets Marc Savard back. This one is still a toss up. The Flyers will win if Brian Boucher matches his first round heroics.

Boston Bruins is seven

I like Ice Box, Paddy O’Prado and Lookin’ At Lucky In Saturday’s Derby.

It’s called the Run for the Roses, but when there are 20 horses in the field, it’s also the Run for the Dollars. With Eskendereya scratched and Sidney’s Candy all the way out in the No. 20 hole, there are a lot of interesting nags with big odds and plenty of opportunity.

You have to like Lookin at Lucky at 3-1, trained by Bob Baffert and ridden by Garrett Gomez, Lookin’ at Lucky is the early favourite running on the pole. He won the Rebel Stakes and the Cash Call Futurity and was 3rd in the Santa Anita Derby and you have to like him a lot if he gets a clear run to the wire.

However, if you’re looking for a longshot, try Paddy O’Prado at 20-1. He’s an Irish grey who was second in the Blue Grass Stakes and is ridden by the great Kent Desormeaux. He’s running out of the 10 hole and will be able to see the entire field to his left and right.

And I also like Ice Box at 10-1. He won the Florida Derby from w-a-a-a-y off the pace and appears to have a gigantic heart. He’s trained by Nick Zito and when Jose Lezcano figured out how to ride him at Gulfstream, he looked like a champion.

Mike Kelly Committed No Crime. You Wouldn’t Know it in Winnipeg.

Former Winnipeg Blue Bombers head coach Mike Kelly, who was fired from his job after being falsely accused of assault, has had every charge against him dropped and every charge completely expunged from the record. In other words, he was neither officially charged nor was he convicted of any wrongdoing whatsoever in the State of Pennsylvania or anywhere else.

Kelly’s court case was completed Monday, but it’s now Wednesday and you wouldn’t know about it in Winnipeg unless you read www.rivercitysportsblog.com or listen to The Great Canadian Talk Show on 92.9 KICK FM.

It’s truly sad how so many people in Winnipeg will work extra hard to destroy somebody, but when it turns out that person did nothing wrong, those people head for the hills.

One might suspect that the reason the truth is being ignored is because Kelly is gone, living in Pennsylvania and no longer part of Winnipeg. Once again, that’s not true. Fact is, Mike Kelly’s a Winnippeger who will be spending a lot more time here in the ‘Peg this summer. Who knows? You might even hear him on radio one day soon.

Big Week for Pennsylvania Hockey. Canucks Look Like Real Contenders.

Sunday night, the Vancouver Canucks eliminated the Los Angeles Kings in six games in the opening round of the Stanley Cup playoffs.

That’s not a surprise by any stretch, but the way in which the Canucks eventually woke up and drilled the Kings was quite telling. The Kings took a 2-1 lead in the series after winning 5-3 in Los Angeles in Game 3 and then, it would appear, Vancouver got pissed.

The Canucks went on to win 6-4, 7-2 and 4-2 as Henrik Sedin, who really should be the NHL’s most valuable player this season, had a goal and four assists in the final three games of the series. When a team puts up 17 goals in three games in a Stanley Cup playoff series, that team is really on its game.

Now look, we picked the Canucks to win in six and so did a lot of other generally misguided pundits, but I think we all believed Roberto Luongo’s goaltending would be the difference. That wasn’t the case. In this series, it was the Canucks offence that made the difference and quite frankly, if that keeps up, it will make the Canucks a legitimate contender for the Stanley Cup.

Meanwhile, it was a big week for the two Pennsylvania teams. The Philadelphia Flyers, who were 5-1 against the New Jersey Devils during the regular season, continued to take it to the Devils and ousted favoured New Jersey in five games. We picked Jersey in seven, but we did not believe that Philly would put a blanket on the Devils the way they did. We also didn’t expect goaltender Brian Boucher to be as good he was (1.59 goals against average and a .940 save percentage) and yet he was clearly the pleasant surprise of the series.

It was a little tougher for the Pittsburgh Penguins who needed six games to take out the Ottawa Senators. The Sens were feisty in this one and despite a serious stomach problem, Ottawa captain Daniel Alfredsson did everything he could to keep the Sens alive. Unfortunately for Ottawa fans, it wasn’t enough against a Sidney Crosby-led Pens team that really looked like the defending Stanley Cup champions when it counted. Crosby finished the six game series with 14 points and appears to be on the way to a Conn Smythe Trophy.

The San Jose Sharks took out Colorado in six games and I’m surprised it went six. The San Jose players finally got rid of the knots in their collective stomach and won a playoff round with ease. It’s about time.

Before the week ends, Boston, Washington, Chicago and, yes I still believe Detroit, should wrap up the remaining four series. That will leave us at 7-1 in the opening round and ready to predict a Vancouver-Pittsburgh Stanley Cup final.

It’s a Nasty World. Even Sports is Now the Domain of the Cold-Hearted and Truth Impaired.

If you’ve spent much of your life working hard and yet you’ve still been treated badly by employers and others in authority, people whom you thought had your back and didn’t,  you’ll know how Cathy Overton-Clapham and most Hispanics in the United States feel today.

Here’s another week of the bad and the ugly (there is so little good these days, I find myself omitting that part).

1) Saturday Night Live had a lot of fun with the new Fascist immigration law in Arizona.

In a state where Major League Baseball has the majority of its spring training operations, it will now be mandatory for Arizona police to maintain ongoing checks of the papers of Hispanic people, constantly harassing them to be sure they aren’t illegal aliens. Arizona didn’t have the cojones to go after the business people who hire illegals, instead they’re going to act like the SS and hunt down anyone who even looks Hispanic (in Arizona that will be a non-stop job).

On Weekend Update on SNL on Saturday, Seth Meyers mused, “’Show me your papers,’ was the standard Nazi line used in every World War II movie I ever watched. In fact, when somebody says ‘Show me your papers,’ doesn’t the Hitler family get a royalty cheque?”

On MSNBC, former sportscaster Keith Olbermann offered, “That’s a great law. During spring training next year, the cops will pull over Manny Ramirez for driving while Hispanic.”

The reality is this. If you combine all the Hispanic Major League baseball players with that Draconian law, you can’t possibly allow big league baseball to be played in Arizona anymore. Even if you ignore the basic racism in the law, anyone with a brain knows that at some point a Major League ball player is going to be pulled over, jailed and deported simply because he left his ID in his locker.

Baseball simply can’t put its players at risk. The law is racist in nature and will be racist in implementation and Hispanic ball players are now in danger in the state of Arizona.

2) Canadian curling icon Jennifer Jones and her pals, Jill Officer and Dawn Askin, fired teammate Cathy Overton-Clapham this week. They used the term “moving forward in a different direction,” as their rationale.

What a sack of crap.

Tell the truth ladies: “Cathy, we’ve decided to give little-hottie Kaitlyn Lawes your spot on the team because she’s younger and will look better on TV. Yeah, we know she doesn’t play the game as well as you, but hey, look at her, she’s hot. Hot like Jen. So listen, there’s a chance that without you, this move might translate into more corporate endorsements and TV opportunities over the long haul. You know how it is. So, ahh, see ya.”

Why is it, when people hurt other people, they have to lie about it. OK, they rationalize it first, then they lie about it.

If the Jones team wanted to improve, the other members would have fired Jones. Instead, they fired the all-star third at the Scotties and the third with the highest shooting percentage at the World Championship. While Jones was choking like a gagging dog at the worlds, Overton-Clapham was keeping the team in the competition.

Listen, what happens on a curling team is the business of the curlers, not anybody else. But when somebody asks why such a public decision was made — and be very clear, this was a public decision — there is really no need to lie about it. You aren’t protecting anybody.

You’re just making yourselves look like liars.

Is A-Rod Absent Minded, Naive or Just a Dirt-Bag?

SI.com reported on a story this week that just seemed mind-boggling to me.

According to SI.com, it seems that after Yankees all-world third-baseman Alex Rodriguez singled in the top of the sixth, Robinson Cano fouled one off and A-Rod, who stopped between second and third, decided to cut right across the pitcher’s mound in order to return to first.

Cano then grounded into an inning-ending double play and pitcher Dallas Braden and A-Rod got into it.

“The long and short of it is it’s pretty much baseball etiquette. He should probably take a note from his captain (Derek Jeter) over there,” Braden told SI.com. “Because you don’t run across the pitcher’s mound in between an inning or during the game. I was just dumbfounded that he would let that slip his mind. I was just trying to convey to him that I was still out there, that ball’s in my hand and that’s my pitcher’s mound. If he wants to run across the pitcher’s mound. Tell him to go do laps in the bullpen.”

Braden at Rodriguez and, of course, Rodriguez yelled back. Exvidently, the two kept screaming at each other until A’s manager Bob Geren came out and escorted Braden off the field.

“He just told me to get off his mound,” Rodriguez told SI.com. “I was a little surprised. I’ve never quite heard that, especially from a guy that has a handful of wins in his career. I’ve never even heard of that in my career and I still don’t know. I thought it was pretty funny, actually.”

Braden, who is 26 and has a lifetime record of 17-21, admitted that he probably won’t cause A-Rod to change his ways.

“I’m not really a speck on that guy’s radar but he’ll know after today that it might not be a good idea to run across the mound when I’m out there,” Braden said. “It’s not like I throw 95 (mph) and I’m going to hurt him. He’ll know I was there, though.”

Good for the kid.

The weird part is this: In 30 years of playing ball from atom to oldtimers, I don’t think it ever dawned on me to run across a mound while either returning to first or just leaving the field. It’s too much effort, especially on some of the shitty fields I’ve played on, to climb up the bump and down again and avoid the rubber without tripping on your face. You’re just cutting back across the infield. It’s not that far. Why would you run across the mound and put yourself in a position in which you could end up doing a swan dive across the dirt? What’s the point other than to, maybe, get into the pitcher’s head?

And maybe that’s it. Maybe A-Rod is just a dirt-bag.

Things to Note… Kelly’s Charges Expunged, World Indigenous Games Coming to Winnipeg and What Does Marty Have?

Cleaning out a tattered notebook…

1) On Monday, in a Pennsylvania court room, all those trumped up “assault” charges against former Winnipeg Blue Bombers head coach Mike Kelly will be formally expunged. The charges have already been dropped. Monday, officially, Kelly can say nothing ever happened.

The fact is, nothing happened in the first place, it just takes this kind of baloney to ruin someone’s life. What happened to Kelly is sad and sick and there are people in Winnipeg who should be ashamed of themselves.

2) I see that my friend, radio talk-show host Marty Gold at 92.9 KICK FM, has “an official document that was sent to Lyle Bauer reporting on the state of the Blue Bombers at the end of last season.” Apparently he acquired it from a Bomber board member.

Don’t know what it is and don’t know what he’s going to do with it, but whatever happens, it will make for very interesting radio.

3) Had a nice chat with Premier Greg Selinger at the Volunteer Manitoba Awards Dinner at the Convention Centre on Tuesday night. A very enthusaistic Premier said, “The 2012 World Indigenous Games, the first ever World Indigenous Games, are coming to Winnipeg. We got ‘em and they’ll look good in that new stadium if we can get it finished.”

According to the Premier, Sport Minister Eric Robinson is presently at the United Nations with WIN president Dr. Willie Littlechild putting the final details together for these first World Indigenous Games. Good for Winnipeg.

4) Giuseppe Denatale’s CFC 5 will be held June 4 at the Winnipeg Convention Centre. The very popular Joe Doerksen is the headliner.

Dwight Sutherland from Peguis is also on the card. Should be a great night.

5) There are people in Winnipeg who love the Chicago Blackhawks because of the presence of Jonathan Toews, but the Nashville Predators are really Winnipeg’s team.

With Jordin Tootoo, who spends much of his off-season in the ‘Peg, along with Colin Wilson and Dustin Boyd, Barry Trotz’s Preds have the biggest group of Manitobans in the NHL. Of course, if Wilson continues to play as well as he did against the Red Wings on Tuesday night, he just might single-handedly lead the Preds into the second round.

6)Went to the launch for Jerrad Peters’ new book, We Call it Soccer, at the Round table on Wednesday night. Fun book written  by a great guy, Peters is the editor of ChristianWeek Magazine.

Published by Studio Publications (Full disclosure: Glen Tinley’s company published three of my books: Home Run, The Winnipeg Jets and In Search of Friends) the book is available at Chapters for only $12.95.

Sorry Dog Lovers. According to the NFL, Roethlisberger a Bigger Monster than Vick.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for six games this week, a result of what was, apparently, alcohol-fueled misbehaviour in a bar in Georgia this winter.

Most American sports pundits believe the punishment fits the crime, even though there was no crime. In the mainstream media, however, crime and misbehaviour are one and the same because as the court of public opinion, media bloviators get to be district attorney, judge and jury.

Goodell has decided that a He-said/She-said bit of nastiness between a 28-year-old male and 20-year-old female in a bar  is deserving of a six-game suspension and, sure, maybe it is. But remember this, Michael Vick, who spent 18 months in prison after being convicted for his role in a dog-fighting (read: dog-killing) ring, also got six games. And that six-game suspension was shortened to two games.

Now, frankly, I had no argument with Vick’s suspension being shortened by four games. He did his time, he paid his debt to polite society and he deserved every opportunity to return to his old job. But the Roethlisberger suspension is a message that killing defenceless animals and drinking, carousing and acting like an idiot is on exactly the same level of  horrendous behaviour. That’s really, really wrong.

The commissioner needs to do what the commissioner needs to do but when killing animals and acting like a dick results in the same penalty, something is amiss.

Parity Makes this Year’s Stanley Cup Playoffs the Most Competitive in Decades.

In a pretty exciting hockey game on Monday night, the Boston Bruins held on to beat the Buffalo Sabres 2-1. Not that this game had anything particularly notable about it, it was simply another indication that this year’s Stanley Cup playoffs are probably the closest we’ve witnessed in a long, long time.

Before the playoffs began, I was on the FAN 960 in Calgary asking Mike Richards, “What constitutes an upset this year?” I suppose you could say a Nashville win over Chicago in the opening round, but don’t forget one thing. At the end of the regular season, the No. 2 Blackhawks had 112 points while the No. 7 Predators had 100. To have two teams separated by only 12 points after 82 games is hardly an uncompetitive situation.

If No. 8 Montreal beats No. 1 Washington in the East, that would definitely be an upset, but if No. 8 Colorado beats No. 1 San Jose in the West, no one would be too surprised. San Jose always chokes early in the post-season.

It’s impossible to deny. The NHL has parity. It’s why the final weeks of the regular season are exciting, it’s why teams that are eight games over .500 miss the playoffs and it’s why this year’s playoffs, for the first time in history, were all tied at 1-1.

On Monday night, Washington made a statement. The Caps went into Montreal and drilled the Habs 5-1. Winkler’s Eric Fehr had a goal and an assist while Alexander Ovechkin was terrific as the Caps let people know that they’ll be around late in the post-season.

Out on the other coast, Roberto Luongo was dreadful in the Vancouver goal as Los Angeles took a 2-1 lead over the Canucks with a 5-3 win.

Nothing is certain this year: Not Ryan Miller’s brilliance, not Detroit’s experience, not Pittsburgh’s defence. Great coaching (see: Barry Trotz), great goaltending (see: Tuukka Rask) and great checking (see: the Philadelphia Flyers) will all play a role as sixth seeds will upset three seeds and seventh seeds will chase down two seeds.

If the first week is any indication, this year’s post-season could very well be the best in decades.

Another Week in the Trenches. Atlanta, Parity, Lousy Officiating and Broke Owners.

In a week in which the Stanley Cup playoffs started, Jerry Reinsdorf was given an NHL franchise, Colorado’s Ubaldo Jimenez pitched a no-hitter, the Blue Bombers released one of the team’s best players and HD TV proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that baseball umpires aren’t very good, there was more talk about Atlanta heading to Winnipeg, Ben Roethlisberger’s transgressions and the city’s reluctance to just give David Asper a free pass.

1) The Blue Bombers released Sideeq Shabazz, a fan favourite and clearly one of the best players in the CFL last season.

The Bombers feel they have to get younger and that’s true. Shabazz is 29 and heaven knows, you’re just about done at 29, but more importantly, the Bombers have serious financial problems.

When Brendan Taman was running the team, he signed some contracts with players that he knew he was going to have to pay later.  Last year, the Bombers started the season $460,000 over the cap. In other words, the only way the football club could stay within the $4.2 million Cdn that is the salary management system’s player payroll cap, was to keep costs down and still hope to be able to compete.

When Mike Kelly took over the club, he was in a bind. The team was still paying Kevin Glenn, Charles Roberts and Milt Stegall (among others) and it was going to have to make it on $3.74 million. It didn’t. Not quite anyway. In the end, the Bombers finished $44,000 over the cap and they were penalized.

So now, still in a financial quagmire, still paying former players, the Bombers have to dump as many veterans as they can — within some kind of competitive plan for 2010 — and try to make it with a load of kids. Especially if they intend to pay quarterback Buck Pierce and veterans like Terrance Edwards, Doug Brown and Fred Reid.

It isn’t easy running the Bombers these days. Last year, the club lost $1.2 million on operations. This year, the team still has cap trouble. If the Bombers go 6-12, fans can consider it a successful year.

2) Watched 12 hours of baseball on Saturday. From the Twins and Blue Jays, to the Indians win over Chicago, the Tigers loss to Seattle and seven hours of St. Louis and the Mets, my wife Sally and I also watched the final two innings of Ubaldo Jimenez’s no-hitter against the Braves. There is nothing better than MLB TV live to HD TV through your computer.

Through it all, I spent much of that time yelling at my gigantic, room-dwarfing HD TV. “Can’t anybody call these stining games properly anymore!!?”

In the Cleveland-Chicago game, the first base umpire called Cleveland’s Shin-Soo Choo out on an appeal play for missing first base while he legged out a double. The replay clearly showed that Choo touched the corner of the bag. It was a horrible call and the more I watched the replay, the more I realized that only a blind guy (or someone with a bet on the game) could call Choo out.

As the day went on, there were half a dozen bad calls at second base on attempted steals and even worse, the strike zone is now a moving, living thing that can be deciphered only by the plate umpire at hat exact moment. Players keep saying all they ask for is consistency. That’s just silly. There has never been consistency and there certainly isn’t any today.

Baseball desperately needs replay for every close play and technology should replace the homeplate umpire when it comes to calling balls and strikes.

3)  In Winnipeg, it seems everyone is doing what it takes to make the new football stadium deal feel politically palatable. “Don’t give David Asper too much. Couch it so that taxpayers feel protected. Make sure anyone who criticizes the deal is marginalized. And if you’re a politician, don’t really give anyone the facts of the deal so that you can change it later.”

What no one seems to have grasped is this: Winnipeg needs a new football stadium, the old one is eventually going to fall down, the community-owned football team can’t make money in that old dump and at some point, somebody is going to have to spend some public money on a new building. The longer we wait, the more expensive it gets.

And frankly, I don’t have any trouble with taxpayers’ money being spent on a new football stadium — anywhere in Canada. I have no trouble honouring all the agreements made with Asper and even with the $90 million-plus loan that’s been offered.

That’s because I believe this: As long as $1 billion in federal taxes is GIVEN to the CBC every single year, the rest of the government’s spending is relatively unimportant. I’m forced to pay taxes to give $1 billion every single year to a broadcasting company that leans far to the left (not just left, but stunningly far, far left), refuses to tell the truth on its website even when its asked to make changes based on fact and hires people who turn into pompous, over-bearing Toronto-centric fools who have no concept of how Canadians live. It also sucks advertising money out of the economy and  yet it still can’t balance its books.

Until the federal government stops funding the CBC, I believe they owe Winnipeg a football stadium. In fact, I believe the entire $135 million bill should be paid for by the feds. As long as the CBC exists in its current form, any argument over how federal taxpayers’ money is spent is just silly and distracting.

4) We tend to go on about small crowds and financial losses in non-traditional NHL markets, but who would ever have thought that the Liverpool Football Club of the English Premier League was $500 million US in the glue.

This past week, Liverpool’s American owners formally put the club up for sale, as both Tom Hicks (who also has to sell the NHL’s Dallas Stars in order to pay his debts) and George Gillett Jr. admitted they no longer have the financial resources to improve the team or build a much-needed new stadium.

The fact the Bombers lost $1.2 million on operations last year (a lot of it to pay back former president Lyle Bauer for all the money he deferred over the years in order to keep the books balanced), is a pittance compared to the losses suffered by Liverpool.

When you consider that the operation of the NBA this season will fall $400 million short of break-even, it’s becoming apparent that all major professional sport — not just the shaky NHL and CFL — is in financial trouble. The recession is deeper than people think and it will be interesting to see what happens in the next decade.

5) I love all the talk about the NFL suspending Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. Roethlisberger, 28, was not charged with any crime for a night at a college bar with a 20-year-old female. There are all sorts of nasty media stories about Roethlisberger’s behaviour that night. There are all sorts of pundits and commentators who like to call Roethlisberger names and, of course, want him punished.

But as the police and the district attorney’s office have made clear, he broke no laws. It appears that the media, and the media alone, have now admitted to something that many of us have known for a long time. The only thing the mainstream media does well is hurt people and that screaming for punishment, even for people who don’t break laws, is what the American mainstream media does best.

6) Speaking of the mainstream media, I wonder how they responded to Andy Sutton’s elbow to the head of Jordan Leopold on Saturday night. After screaming for months about increasing the severity of penalties to get head shots out of the game, the media watched as Sutton drilled an unprotected Leopold in the head with a vicious elbow on Saturday night.

No penalty was called and I haven’t heard any screaming today. In fact, many mainstream media members I’ve read this morning have called the check “clean.” Ouch.

It’s great to scream and yell about concussions and other injuries, but hockey is a collision sport and if you are going to play it, you sign up for danger. That was a dreadful hit by a man hoping to injure another player, a player who was in a vulnerable position, fighting off a check from one of Sutton’s teammates. However, it was no different than any number of hits in any number of games this year.

Sutton’s physical destruction of Jordan Leopold was a textbook case for creating special head-hunting penalties. But there was no penalty at all on the play and no one seems terribly concerned by that. The message was clear: Quit whining and play.

7) Walking through the Home Depot on Saturday morning, one of the store’s employees approached me and politely asked, “When are the Atlanta Thrashers coming to Winnipeg?”

He’d been at a family gathering and one of his family members happens to work for the Manitoba Moose. That family member said he had been told by Moose brass to prepare for the arrival of the Thrashers and to be ready to move with the AHL team. Perhaps even to Saskatoon.

This is not the first time a hockey fan in Winnipeg has been told this story by someone who seemed honest and sincere. While Moose brass don’t want to admit it, the rumours of the NHL’s return to Winnipeg are being stoked by people who are working at MTS Centre.

The rumours will not go away until someone at the top of the pecking order at True North Sports and Entertainment stands up and says, “The NHL is NOT, ever, returning to Winnipeg.”

Right now, I for one, just can’t escape the talk and frankly, I continue to find it fascinating.